OrangeTree Development
My name is Paul. I currently run the odd business or two, and also provide a business advice service. Like, advice from the real world.
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Paul Norman
OrangeTree Development
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OrangeTree Development
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The whole OrangeTree team are thrilled that Danny is joining us and looking forward to more fun and lots more success.
Is he now Danny P or Danny O?

Karen OrangeTree
OrangeTree Development

Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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It's an exciting move for me too and an opportunity not to be missed. As my grandfather used to say - I may be daft but I'm not silly.
Look at me everyone! I'm turning orange!

d2 Accounting
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Brilliant news! What a fantastic pairing!
Lianne Dupré
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Credit-Manager.Net Ltd
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more Orange.
Well done Danny. Does this mean you have to be extra nice in your posts and can't moan about the boss?
Mr. N - Would you please tell Danny that he has to put up a new photo, one with him wearing the brightest Orange shirt he can find.
Edit: oh, and well done Oranges for getting the man on board.

Detective Denise
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Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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I checked my contract. No

Dot Design
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Mimo
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Does this mean you're no longer being tossed for a living, or does this mean OrangeTree now offer tossee's to small businesses?
(Well done DP)


OrangeTree Development
My name is Paul. I currently run the odd business or two, and also provide a business advice service. Like, advice from the real world.
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I checked my contract. No
I left that clause out.
Bother.
Paul Norman
OrangeTree Development
SoleHeaven

Hi, I only work for people I like and I like just about everyone and I'm told that I'm a really nice guy but don't believe it unless I smile
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Hey! just seen this - congrats Mr Peters, going orange is obviously doing it for peeps... I would be green, but I'm just blue at the moment... but great news and good luck

Sponsalis
Great organiser, lover of people and generally a thoroughly good egg.
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SO Simple PR
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Entertaining Acorns
I am a childrens entertainer with a difference. Lots of fun and interaction using games, parachutes, music and more. Adults can join in 2
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Wo ho yay excellent brilliant.
Danny and Orange tree rocks massive like!
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Entertaining Acorns
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Converging Communications Ltd
Mobile Telecoms firm based in Newcastle, offering independant and impartial advice to SME's
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John Leonard
Converging Communications Ltd
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Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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Denise - I have two more weeks of vanmunki duties.
John - Let me know if you find out. Paul says it's a secret.
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Converging Communications Ltd
Mobile Telecoms firm based in Newcastle, offering independant and impartial advice to SME's
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Credit-Manager.Net Ltd
Job: Credit Manager, Business: Credit Management, Hobby: Board member of Credit Organisation. I am a Credit geek.
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As I understand it OTD have just purchased a white van and are in the process of spraying it a tangerine colour.
Danny will be tasked with driving around, handing out oranges with the company logo on. He will be allowed to play air drums and keep a pet sheep in the van as long as they are in company colours.
I may have got it wrong and it could have been to walk around winking at young ladies.
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Sponsalis
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Being a nosey so and so - will you be moving oop North then Danny and leaving the Black Country? If you are then you need to take your passport and your thermal longjohns as I have heard its a bit parky up there
Denise
Meredith
Sponsalis

Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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London Hair Solutions
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Congrats Danny!!
Hopfully see you in the OTD office one day!!
Aimee Longstaff (the hair fairy)
London Hair Solutions


Sponsalis
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Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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Actually, my last bike was an orange CBF1000 and my current tiger would have been orange and looked like this if the dealer hadn't been doing a super offer on a blue one with about £2K of free hard luggage, heated grips, centre stand and other stuff that I wanted.


Hi, I only work for people I like and I like just about everyone and I'm told that I'm a really nice guy but don't believe it unless I smile
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Credit-Manager.Net Ltd
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Where are the pedals and bell?
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Hi, I only work for people I like and I like just about everyone and I'm told that I'm a really nice guy but don't believe it unless I smile
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Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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Terrible news. My former manager thinks I am making a mistake leaving Virgin Media. Apparently I have great potential. Given that his "management" is one of the things that failed to make this a hard decision for me, I was quietly amused. He did say nice things about my contributions to the company having been there from the early days though. Which was nice.
I thanked him for his thoughts and informed him that potential is a transferrable asset, also that I felt it would be far easier to realise it elsewhere. In an act of statesmanlike diplomacy, I wrapped the part where I alluded to him being an idiot in positive words and thanks.
It was interesting to me that his attitude made it clear that he assumed I was leaving because I didn't like my job. It never even occurred to him that I might be making this as a positive move, taking an opportunity that I consider to be a good one, as opposed to turning my back on VM because I have the hump about something. I find that other poeple's assumptions tell you a great deal about how they themselves think.
It got me thinking about other things too. I just don't have the political patience to get on in what is now a huge organisation. When I started in the cable industry, my part of it was a few hundred people looking after perhaps 100000 homes. I knew whoever I needed to get things done. Now it is a nationally joined up company, there are neccessarily big hoops to jump through and processes so abstract that I feel like I barely know how to get anything out of the ordinary done. As someone with a problem solving mind, it frustrates the hell out of me. Realising this has made me all the keener to get busy again with a small company.
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OrangeTree Development
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for one moment there I thought you had changed your mind! I am glad you haven't.
At Orangetree we have the opportunity to build an organisation the way we want it to be, which is really exciting and you will be a fundamental part of that, we all will be. I expect very little in the way of politics, lots in the way of hard work and fun. It is the way it has been so far.
The work we do is really absorbing. It may not be as techy as that stuff you do at VM but at least it will be fun learning something new!
Karen OrangeTree
OrangeTree Development

Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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Probably more techy than most of the stuff I do. It sounds all very glam when I talk about lasers and DOCSIS3 and UBRs and whatnot, but the fact of the matter is that 90% lot of this particular layer of the 7 layer OSI model boils down to bashing and tightening things in pits full of mud. Well, ok, that's an exaggeration, but less than a quarter of it is interesting, involving stuff when you've been doing it for ten years plus.
And I'm not particularly knocking VM for its processess and procedures. It's a massive organisation now. They just can't have well meaning but hairy arsed vanmunkies like me making it up as I go along. I understand that, it would be chaos. Unfortunately that means that most of the time there is little point in me taking my brain out of its box. And that understanding has further reinforced to me that I'm making the right move to somewhere where I will be able to.
Sorry Karen, didn't mean to alarm you!

Sponsalis
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VM are ok - they don't like me very much though as I refuse to buy a larger tv package as I am still on the starter one that I had with telewest..they tempt me with the Nat Geo channel occasionally which I watch for a month and then refuse to upgrade so they take it away.
Denise
Meredith
Sponsalis

Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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No, he's just a blinkered idiot. He didn't even bother to find out where I was going or what I was doing. How on earth does he think he can make a valid judgement on whether it is a mistake or not?

Sponsalis
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Some bosses are like that Danny - what is VM's loss is Orange's gain It would be a mistake to stay where you are unappreciated and at least with Orange you can have your own biscuit tin.
Denise
Meredith
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OrangeTree Development
My name is Paul. I currently run the odd business or two, and also provide a business advice service. Like, advice from the real world.
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VM are in many ways a good company, and it is good not to be leaving in bitterness. That is massively commendable.
But it is the enquiring mind, enthusiasm to learn that are the key skills that we believe we will gain from at OTD.
Taking on staff is, in my view, a responsibility. Even as an organisation grows, fulfilling the aspirations of the team should remain a key management objective, as far as is possible.
And, in the real world, people move on. You have to be a grown up about it in both directions.
Paul Norman
OrangeTree Development
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Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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It's true Paul, I have seen many people leave with a very negative attitude, what is on many levels a pretty good job. And quite often sheepishly admit later that they didn't realise how good until they had gone. I did take the freedom and opportunity to politely tell this guy about the hideous re-org errors I thought he made recently (yes I told him before it went wrong too), but I took pains to make it clear that despite that, my time with the various companies that have ended up as VM has been an overall very positive experience. (Telewest were my favourite, we were doing a brilliant job of turning the tide of opinion regarding cable companies until it was all change again). The OTD opportunity that I would have taken anyway, just happens to have arrived shortly after being buggered about, that's all. I've been buggered about there numerous times in 14 years. You get used to it and crack on.
Bottom line is; there's no point leaving a bitter taste in people's mouths as you leave, and frankly, who's likely to listen to you if you're bitching and moaning on your way out anyway? Everyone go for a pint and smile and shake hands.
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Robinsons International Removals Ltd
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Congrats to all involved
This is very exciting news indeed.
I need to do something very similar to your move Mr P in that I am currently getting very annoyed at driving between 1000-1500 miles per week in my current position!
Well done to all involved!!
David McGarry
Robinsons International Removals Ltd
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OrangeTree Development
Geek Girl I don't speak geek, but I do think in Flow Charts. OrangeTree Build systems that help build successful businesses.
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erm .. you could always get off your arse and do it 
/justsaying
Seriously, there are loads of people around the network and here who would be delighted to help ... we all think you are fab!
Karen OrangeTree
OrangeTree Development

Robinsons International Removals Ltd
Removalist extrodinaire avec quiff and silver splash that isn't doing what you think he is in his avatar
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ha ha - GOMA now theres an idea!
Thank Kaz!
/hasacoupleofideasupsleeve
David McGarry
Robinsons International Removals Ltd

Sponsalis
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Maybe a move to the Midlands will be better David - its fairly central and close to most places which means less driving.
Denise
Meredith
Sponsalis

Detective Denise
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOO, that can't possibly be allowed to happen
Denise McCallum
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Sponsalis
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What's wrong with the Midlands? Think of it like Clover -the best bits are in the middle, plus we now have an Orange Outpost.
Denise
Meredith
Sponsalis

Orangetree Development
GOYA? How about binning my job of 14 years and joining Orangetree? How d'ya like getting off those apples?
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I knew I had a photo of the orange bike I did have somewhere. I only sold the bloody thing because of someone else's evilness ![]()

Sponsalis
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It was a lovely bike Danny - one thing that I learnt a long time ago was never to come between a man and his bike, in fact I think I was more of a bike addict than he was, I still have my helmet and gloves and my lairy jacket.
Denise
Meredith
Sponsalis

GBS Group - Sell Your Services
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Congrats to Danny and the Orange Tree team. Onwards and upwards.
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Mimo
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I was convinced I'd written some sort of "witty" comment in here; alas I did not, therefore good luck DP


Crimson Leaf Copywriting and Marketing
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